Local pro-life letter to the editor
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Local pro-life letter to the editor
Hi everyone,
I've been wanting to share this letter with you all for awhile now, but I was reluctant
to post it on the syr forum for obvious reasons.
It's a letter to the editor of our local (Bismarck) newspaper, and I think the author
makes some good points. It's not likely to be featured on a major news outlet or pop
up through any sort of Google search, so I thought I'd post it here in case anyone is
interested.
Interesting how the letter-writter never uses Barack Obamas name. Anyway, here
it is:
_The ends don't justify the means_
Recently I heard the president tell all of America that a
woman's choice to have or not to have an abortion is a moral
and ethical question. I have also heard the president say
America has lost its moral compass by using waterboarding,
which the president considers torture.
The president laid out a pretty good argument that the ends
don't justify the means. That is, saving thousands of lives
wouldn't excuse using "immoral" methods such as
waterboarding to save those lives.
More interesting is that no one has been killed in waterboarding.
Those who have been water boarded are still living. Looking at
the process, in fact, there are doctors present to the assure
the subject being interrogated isn't physically harmed.
The process of waterboarding is not to kill the subject but to
get information.
On the other hand, Mr. President, I wonder if a baby were to
survive an abortion procedure if he/she would consider
abortion torture. In fact, torture with the intent to kill. No
doctor is there to protect the subject, the baby.
Can we imagine what reason the mother might have that would
justify this torture -- torture unto death a defenseless human?
Then there is the protection offered by our president to a
terrorist, criminal, and murderer, and the protection the
president is not willing to offer a sinless, innocent, defenseless
human baby. This has to be the paramount example of hypocrisy
by a politically correct president.
Mr. President, you have lost your moral compass in exchange
for your rise to power. You are right, though. The ends don't
justify the means.
I've been wanting to share this letter with you all for awhile now, but I was reluctant
to post it on the syr forum for obvious reasons.
It's a letter to the editor of our local (Bismarck) newspaper, and I think the author
makes some good points. It's not likely to be featured on a major news outlet or pop
up through any sort of Google search, so I thought I'd post it here in case anyone is
interested.
Interesting how the letter-writter never uses Barack Obamas name. Anyway, here
it is:
_The ends don't justify the means_
Recently I heard the president tell all of America that a
woman's choice to have or not to have an abortion is a moral
and ethical question. I have also heard the president say
America has lost its moral compass by using waterboarding,
which the president considers torture.
The president laid out a pretty good argument that the ends
don't justify the means. That is, saving thousands of lives
wouldn't excuse using "immoral" methods such as
waterboarding to save those lives.
More interesting is that no one has been killed in waterboarding.
Those who have been water boarded are still living. Looking at
the process, in fact, there are doctors present to the assure
the subject being interrogated isn't physically harmed.
The process of waterboarding is not to kill the subject but to
get information.
On the other hand, Mr. President, I wonder if a baby were to
survive an abortion procedure if he/she would consider
abortion torture. In fact, torture with the intent to kill. No
doctor is there to protect the subject, the baby.
Can we imagine what reason the mother might have that would
justify this torture -- torture unto death a defenseless human?
Then there is the protection offered by our president to a
terrorist, criminal, and murderer, and the protection the
president is not willing to offer a sinless, innocent, defenseless
human baby. This has to be the paramount example of hypocrisy
by a politically correct president.
Mr. President, you have lost your moral compass in exchange
for your rise to power. You are right, though. The ends don't
justify the means.
SursumCorda- Posts : 54
Join date : 2009-05-13
Location : North Dakota
Sursum, do you ever wonder
if the one who said he was (at the time) more popular than Jesus Christ, currently resides with Jesus Christ? In his defense, the remark was taken a bit out of context but....... it was a dumb remark nonetheless.
Thereforeiam- Posts : 78
Join date : 2009-05-15
Location : Syracuse, NY
Are you talking about...
John Lennon? I'm not sure what that has to do with the pro-life letter. And BTW, yes, it was a
stupid remark (although you misparaphrased him), and I have no idea where his soul is; neither
do I care.
stupid remark (although you misparaphrased him), and I have no idea where his soul is; neither
do I care.
SursumCorda- Posts : 54
Join date : 2009-05-13
Location : North Dakota
I could never quite understand the brouhaha
and I think that's the first time I've tried to spell brouhaha. Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. Why in the world is that an indictment of him? If anything, it's an indictment of us.
Sursum, re: your local letter to the editor... it always comes down to whether or not one recognizes the shared humanity, the personhood, of the fetus. For those who don't, your letter writer's analogy is meaningless. For those who do, it's not necessary.
That's why I agreed with Obama's point that THESE differences are irreconciliable. That question--is this or is this not a human being?--is the crux of the whole matter.
It also underscores why pro-life folks are rightfully skeptical when they hear someone talk about the decision to abort as "heart-wrenching" or of deep moral gravity. No one would talk that way about having a cyst or polyp removed, yet that is the status they assign to the fetus.
Sursum, re: your local letter to the editor... it always comes down to whether or not one recognizes the shared humanity, the personhood, of the fetus. For those who don't, your letter writer's analogy is meaningless. For those who do, it's not necessary.
That's why I agreed with Obama's point that THESE differences are irreconciliable. That question--is this or is this not a human being?--is the crux of the whole matter.
It also underscores why pro-life folks are rightfully skeptical when they hear someone talk about the decision to abort as "heart-wrenching" or of deep moral gravity. No one would talk that way about having a cyst or polyp removed, yet that is the status they assign to the fetus.
VicarJoe- Posts : 395
Join date : 2009-05-12
Location : Upstate NY
Sursum, I didn''t mean to
ignore your original post and I incorrectly assumed you were a John Lennon fan. Mea culpa.
Thereforeiam- Posts : 78
Join date : 2009-05-15
Location : Syracuse, NY
Moral versus ethical
The word ethic gets mis-used as a substitute for the word moral. Ethics is the examination at two moral principles that are at odds with one another. With President Obama, there is no ethical issue because, in his eyes, abortion is not immoral, thus there is no conflict.
However, if he does believe there is an ethical issue then, that means that abortion is immoral. So, what is the other moral that abortion comes into conflict with? Ruining somebody's plan for a career? Because we all know that was mentioned in the 10 Commandments, "Thout shall have a career to thy liking."
Have you ever noticed that the pro-death crowd throws up the extreme choices (rape, incest, mothers life) like that is where the vast majority of undesired pregnancies come from. Choicing between the life of one's wife and your child would be an example of ethics. The RC is clear on the matter, the baby comes first.
However, if he does believe there is an ethical issue then, that means that abortion is immoral. So, what is the other moral that abortion comes into conflict with? Ruining somebody's plan for a career? Because we all know that was mentioned in the 10 Commandments, "Thout shall have a career to thy liking."
Have you ever noticed that the pro-death crowd throws up the extreme choices (rape, incest, mothers life) like that is where the vast majority of undesired pregnancies come from. Choicing between the life of one's wife and your child would be an example of ethics. The RC is clear on the matter, the baby comes first.
stihl- Posts : 271
Join date : 2009-05-13
Location : Hills South of Syracuse
Re: Local pro-life letter to the editor
Joe and Stihl, thanks for posting your thoughts.
Therefore, I am indeed a huge Beatles fan (not of JL's solo work, though). However,
that doesn't mean I condone everything they said or did.
I'm waiting for my husband's schedule to free up so I can post a pic of Saint Monica,
Saint Veronica, or Saint Madeleine Sophie Barat. 'Til then I just picked something out
of the gallery provided by the forum.
Therefore, I am indeed a huge Beatles fan (not of JL's solo work, though). However,
that doesn't mean I condone everything they said or did.
I'm waiting for my husband's schedule to free up so I can post a pic of Saint Monica,
Saint Veronica, or Saint Madeleine Sophie Barat. 'Til then I just picked something out
of the gallery provided by the forum.
SursumCorda- Posts : 54
Join date : 2009-05-13
Location : North Dakota
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